Friday, June 02, 2006

Wolves in sheep's clothing

Wolves in sheep's clothing on an extremist Islamic mission

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Again, if you are a muslim and you don't like the contents of these videos, don't leave me nasty comments. I did not make these video, direct your comments to the people on the video, not to me!!!



41 Comments:

At 1:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one can ever beat the guiding light of Allah s.w.t.

 
At 7:59 AM, Blogger smithy said...

Muslims have never won any battles in the last 400 years, the Islamic world is the garbage dump of the world. In the last 400 years, Islam has contributed nothing to humanity. Thousands of mullahs five times a day pray to god to grant the Islamic Umma victory. Nothing is happening! On the contrary things are getting worst to muslims and Islam, There is at least 100,000 mosques all over the world if not more. That is half billion duah a day, times 365 days, times 400 years, that would be 73,000,000,000 times and counting, asking god to (allah huma ensur al-islam) and the Islamic world is still the pus of the world. May be it’s time to re-examine your statement, may be Allah is not on your side as much as you believe he is and maybe the guiding light you are talking about is nothing but a myth. Just a thought!

 
At 11:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah. your beliefs is yours. my beliefs is mine.

Allah the Loving God :)

 
At 11:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what is this? y are u doing this? does this site make u proud? we as muslims treat non believers as if they are our own flesh n blood. Those extremists who claim to be muslims, taint and destroy the muslim image. and u smithy saying that muslims have never won a war in 400 years... Y do we need war? Spilling the blood of the innocent men, women and children to prove your earthly exsistance to be a powerful one? Now that is wrong. I would never treat a non muslim in a harsh way.. My mother side of the family are non muslims but still we live, love and respect each other. And another thing, I know a lot of american muslims during my time performing the haj. I met a firefighter who almost lost his life during 9/11.. he was ashamed of the terrorists but never ashamed of islam. All i can say is, never underestimate the true power of allah.

 
At 12:01 PM, Blogger smithy said...

Hey Nonymous:

A little taqiya and little kitman hey.

Muslims suffer from a severe case of narcissistic personality disorder, you simply don’t see the truth even if it bites you in the ass.

Name one country with majority muslims where the rights of their minority Christians, Jews and Hindus are preserved and treated as equal citizens.

Start from the dawn of islam till present time. Start with the Umar Pact down to the Themmii’s are not even allowed to testifying in court and end with Coptic and Hindus being attacked continuously at the present time all over the Islamic world

 
At 7:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without islam there is no medicine, without islam there is no mathematics n science... keep saying wat u want mate...i believe in wat i believe...

 
At 7:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allah the Great loves us.

 
At 7:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In brunei? malaysia? indonesia? sabah? sarawak? and about the hindus being attacked? think of the muslims in palestine being attacked by the jews claiming its their land given to them by god... wahahahahahahahahaha stupid if u ask me

 
At 9:24 AM, Blogger smithy said...

(Without islam there is no medicine, without islam there is no mathematics n science...) I can't stop laughing.

This is the biggest myth the unethical muslims historian been peddling through history. The fact is civilizations in that area was in existence for 1000’s of years before islam, The truth is when islam conquered these lands and robbed the people from their national identity and forced them to convert, pay the jezya or be killed, took all their civilizations and claimed it to be Islamic.

The muslim Bedouins contributed nothing to the translation of the Greek philosophy it was the Christians, the Jewish, the Zoroastrian and the Sabian inhabitance of the conquered land were the ones that preserved these treasures, on the contrary to your claim most of the thinkers in the Islamic era, excelled despite of islam not because of it’s nurture. Ibin Sina, Ibin Al Mukafa and his son, Ibn Al Rawandy, Abu Baker Al-Razi, Abud Massih Al kindi, Al Mutanabi, Al-farabi were all accused of heresy (zandaka), they were not nurtured and encouraged by the Islamic establishment they were harassed and accused of apostasy (Zanadeek). When Ibin Al Hytham wrote the earth is a sphere his books were burned and the Islamic establishment referred to Umar burning of the Alexandria library as a point of reference to rule on the burning his books.

So Mulims burned two of the biggest library of their time, the Alexandria library and the Buddhist library in India, Islam actually set the world back 1000s of years. Doesn’t look like Islam had any positive influence on humanity as most muslims historian lie to you, and brain wash you to believe. It’s all crap!!!!. The only positive thing islam have done was when they attacked the eastern part of Europe most of the Greek philosopher fled the islmaic peaceful massacres, raping and looting and went to western Europe and those fleeing free thinkers and philosophers were the ones that influenced and accelerated the change of Europe and resulted in ending the dark ages. The dark ages is what the isalmic world are suffering from at the present time, wake up and observe objectively, compare what the church did and what Islam are teaching and doing at the present time, the similarities are stunning. If you make an objective observation you know I am right.

keep your head stuck in the sand.

 
At 10:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

buddy talk about gujrat in india,bosnia,palestine.............................................................................etc.

 
At 10:37 AM, Blogger smithy said...

you have not noticed for the exception of Palestine issue, muslims have always been the instigator and provokers of all these conflicts. But as usual, muslims yourself included suffer from a severe case of narcissistic personality disorder. A narcissist lives in a bubble of his own personal reality never sees the truth.

 
At 2:22 PM, Anonymous Ninz said...

The only provoker of conflict here is you. You just can't bring yourself to see the truth.

My condolescences.


Allah bless Muslims.

 
At 6:33 PM, Blogger smithy said...

Dear Ninz,

Thanks for your concern and condolences. I would offer condolences to your brain as it had died long time ago.

I guess after 1400 years of warring and Jihad I can safely say and write what I please about the peaceful Islam. It's free country. oops freedom is a foreign concept to Islam. sorry I did not mean to offend you.

 
At 9:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

freedom?freedom to follow ur lusts,to be a slave of ur will ,do wat ever ur will orders u,ignoring morals.is it the freedom u talk bout,mate?

 
At 10:57 AM, Blogger smithy said...

(freedom to follow ur lusts)


Freedom is just freedom, and lust is the specialty of your pedophile prophet muhamMAD . Muslims always equate freedom with sexuality because they are deprived from it. Your moral standard are so twisted, your brain only function on one wave-sex sex sex sex sex sex. You claim the high moral ground when your prophet was a rapist, a pedophile and a murderer. Don’t you read your own history and present.

People with glass homes;

MY GOD you're blind.

 
At 6:11 AM, Anonymous A Muslim. said...

Allah is Most Merciful, and Most Loving.

 
At 9:45 AM, Anonymous ALI HAMZA said...

mr smithy i read ur comment which u made against the brother anonymous.he never mentioned the word'sex' he mentioned lust.lust can be of money,power,etc..and yes sex too .the bro didnt mention sex it is u who think of lust to be sex.As far as ur claim bout prophet MUHAMMAD(SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASSALLAM) BEING A PAEDOPHILE IS CONCERNED (MAY ALLAH FORGIVE ME FOR SAYING SO) HERE IS SOMETHING
Through the centuries, orientalists have advance numerous accusations and far-fetched theories to discredit Islam and its last Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him). Praise be to Allah alone, all such accusations have been successfully refuted by the Muslims Ummah. Currently, one of the ‘reinvented’ accusations against the noble character of the Prophet is about his marriage to young Aisha Siddiqa ®.
Let’s probe some of the orientalists’ charges in detail in the light of modern research, historic evidence and the Islamic sources of the Quran and the Sunnah to separate truth from falsehood, and display to the world that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is indeed an exemplary for all of mankind.

Two main theories are often advance by orientalists to attack the pure character of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) on his marriage to Aisha ® at her young age.

A. He was a Pedophile.
B. He was involved in child abuse.

Let’s analyze each theory to dig out the truth, through the Guidance of Allah (SWT).
A. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha ® because he was a pedophile?
Definition of a Pedophile:

"Pedophile: also spelled PEDOPHILIA, psychosexual disorder in which an adult's arousal and sexual gratification occur primarily through sexual contact with prepubescent children. The typical pedophile is unable to find satisfaction in an adult sexual relationship and may have low self-esteem, seeing sexual activity with a child as less threatening than that with an adult." Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998
"pe.do.phil.ia n [NL] (1906): sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object -- pe.do.phil.i.ac or pe.do.phil.ic adj." Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary


The diagnostic criteria for pedophilia according to American Psychiatric Association:

Over a period of at least 6 months, recurrent intense sexual urges and sexual arousing fantasies involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children.
The person has acted on these urges, or is markedly distressed by them.
The person is at least 16 years old and at least 5 years older than the child or children in A.
DSM-III-R Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, ed 3, revised, copyright American Psychiatric Association.
"In addition to their pedophilia, a significant number of pedophiles are concomitantly or have previously been involved in exhibitionism, voyeurism, or rape". (Voyeurism’s the recurrent preoccupation with fantasized or acts that involve seeking out or observing people who are naked, or are engaged in grooming or in sexual activity". Synopsis of psychiatry, Harold I.Kaplan et al., 5th ed., pg360, Publishers: Williams and Wilkens, 1988
Does the Prophet fit the above criteria of a pedophile?

With the above criteria of a pedophile in mind, lets analyze the lifestyle of the prophet and his marriages.

Name of Bride Bride’s age at marriage Comments
Khadija bint khawilad 40 Twice widowed before
Sauda Bint Zama 50 Widow
Aisha bint Abu Bakr 9 Started living with the prophet at the age of 9.
Hafsa Bint Umar bin Khattab 22 Widow
Zainab bint Khuzaima 30
Umm-I-Salma bint Abu Umayia 26 Widow
Zainab Bint Jahash 38 Widow
Juwaeria Bint Harith 20 Widow
Umm-I-Habiba bint Abu Sufyan 36 Widow
Marya Qibtiya bint shamun 17 Virgin, Egyptian
Safia bint Hayi bin Akhtab 17 Widow
Raihana bint umru bin hanafa Not available
Maimuna bint harith 36 Widow


Source: The Prophet of Islam, the Ideal Husband, by Syed Abu Zafar Zain, Kazi Publications, Lahore, Ist Ed., pg. 10-12

Statistics from the above table:
Percentage of his wives who were 17years and older = 91 %

Percentage of his wives who were widows = 75%


Comment: The statistics show that the prophet’s marriage to Aisha at her young age was an exception and not a norm of his other marriages. Furthermore ‘a pedophile’s main mode of sexual satisfaction is with prepubescent girls’, which is contradictory to the 91% of prophet’s marriage to women 17 years and over. An unbiased examination of Prophet’s life and his marriages to his wives blatantly rejects the notion of his lifestyle fitting that of a pedophile. All his brides were aged widows (except Aisha and Marium).
Moreover, according to the criteria in the references cited above in ‘Synopsis of Psychiatry’, a vast majority of pedophiles possess a history of exhibitionism, voyeurism, or rape. Again, there is no single reference from either religious or secular sources that the noble Prophet ever indulged in such sadistic behavior (God forbid). This truth is observed and accepted by both Muslims and unbiased non-Muslims scholars.

"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher." – Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras, 1932, p. 4.



B. Others claim that the noble Prophet (peace be upon him) indulged in child-abuse when he married Aisha at her young age.

Let scrutinize this allegation…

Definition of Child Abuse:

Child Abuse, also called CRUELTY TO CHILDREN, the willful and unjustifiable infliction of pain and suffering on children. The term can denote the use of inordinate physical violence; unjustifiable verbal abuse; the failure to furnish proper shelter, nourishment, medical treatment, or emotional support; incest; other cases of sexual molestation or rape; and the making of child pornography. Frequently described by the medical profession as the "battered-child syndrome," abusive treatment of children is almost universally proscribed by criminal statutes. Child abuse can have serious future consequences for the victims involved. Delays in physical growth, impaired language and cognitive abilities, and problems in personality development, learning, and behavior are common following instances of child abuse or neglect.Encyclopedia Britannica, 1998


Comment: None of the criteria of child-abuse applies to the noble life of the Prophet (pbuh). There is no single incident of any infliction of pain and suffering by the prophet on Aisha or any other human being for that matter. Neither any instance of verbal or sexual abuse can be concluded from the relationship of the prophet with Aisha ® or any of his wives.

An abused child can have serious future consequences…delayed physical growth, impaired language..learning and behavior…etc (above definition). As one examines the chaste life of Aisha ®, her personality, physical, mental and spiritual development are all contrary to that of an abused child. In fact through the Prophet’s marriage and his guidance to Aisha, history testifies that she should be labeled not as an abused child but as a ‘blessed child’.

After analyzing and refuting the accusations against the noble character of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the only viable alternative left with us is:
C. The Prophet married Aisha for the benefit of Islam and Humanity.

Lets analyze…


The Prophet married Aisha primarily for three reasons:
To reinforce the friendly relations already existing with Abu Bakr (his closest companion).
To educate and train Aisha so she may serve the purposes of Islam.
To teach her to utilize her capabilities for the sake of Islam.
Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahi (Divine Revelation). She, herself relates from the Prophet, ‘He said, "I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that…" Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p.285.

Aisha ® was born after her parents had embraced Islam. Therefore, she was free from the defilement of polytheism right from her birth.

In her youth, already known for her striking beauty and her formidable memory, she came under the loving care and attention of the Prophet himself. As his wife and close companion she acquired from him knowledge and insight such as no woman has ever acquired.







Aishah lived on almost fifty years after the passing away of the Prophet. She had been his wife for a decade. Much of this time was spent in learning and acquiring knowledge of the two most important sources of God's guidance, the Quran and the Sunnah of His Prophet. Aishah ® was one of the three wives (the other two being Hafsa ® and Umm Salamah ®) who memorized the Revelation. Like Hafsa ®, she had her own script of the Quran written after the Prophet had died.


So far as the Hadith or sayings of the Prophet is concerned, Aishah ® is one of four persons (the others being Abu Hurrah, Abdullah ibn Umar, and Ana ibn Malik) who transmitted more than two thousand sayings. From her, 2210 Hadith have come, out of which 174 Hadith are commonly agreed upon by both Bukhari and Muslim. Many of her transmissions pertain to some of the most intimate aspects of personal behavior which only someone in Aishah’s position could have learnt. What is most important is that her knowledge of Hadith was passed on in written form by at least three persons including her nephew Urwah who became one of the greatest scholars among the generation after the Companions. It is the claim of the Scholars of Islam that without her, half of the Ilm-I-Hadith [knowledge, understanding of the Hadith (and Islam)] would have perished.

Many of the learned companions of the Prophet and their followers benefited from Aishah's knowledge. Abu Musa al-Ashari once said: "If we companions of the Messenger of God had any difficulty on a matter, we asked Aisha about it."
"Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said from Said ibn al-Musayyab that Abu Musa al-Ashari came to Aishah, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said to her, "The disagreement of the companions in a matter which I hate to bring before you has distressed me." She said, "What is that? You did not ask your mother about it, so ask me." He said, "A man penetrates his wife, but becomes listless and does not ejaculate. "She said, "When the circumcised part passes the circumcised part ghusl is obligatory." Abu Musa added, "I shall never ask anyone about this after you." Al-Muwatta of Imam Malik Hadith 2.75
Arwa Bin Zubair says, "I did not find anyone more proficient (than Aisha ®) in the knowledge of the Holy Quran, the Commandments of Halal (lawful) and Haram (prohibited), Ilmul-Ansab and Arabic poetry. That is why, even senior companions of the Prophet used to consult Aisha ® in resolving intricate issued".Jala-ul-Afham by Ibn Qaiyem and Ibn Sa’ad, Vol.2, p.26

Abu Musa al-Ashari says: "Never had we (the companions) had any difficulty for the solution of which we approached Aisha and did not get some useful information from her".Sirat-I-Aisha, on the authority of Trimidhi, pg. 163



As a teacher she had a clear and persuasive manner of speech and her power of oratory has been described in superlative terms by al-Ahnaf who said: "I have heard speeches of Abu Bakr and Umar, Uthman and Ali and the Khulafa up to this day, but I have not heard speech more persuasive and more beautiful from the mouth of any person than from the mouth of Aishah."







The Prophet said, "The superiority of 'Aisha to other ladies is like the superiority of Tharid (i.e. meat and bread dish) to other meals. Many men reached the level of perfection, but no woman reached such a level except Mary, the daughter of Imran and Asia, the wife of Pharaoh." Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith, Narrated by Abu Musa Al Ashari Hadith 4.643
Musa Ibn Talha ® says, "I did not see anyone more eloquent than Aisha ®" Mustadrak of Hakim, Vol.4,p.11



Men and women came from far and wide to benefit from her knowledge.







Aisha’s great interest in the study of the Qur’an is understandable. She was an eye-witness to a number of revelations and had therefore a clear idea of the circumstances in which they were revealed. It was on her bed alone (and no other consort’s) that the Prophet received Wahi (Divine Revelations) several times. This helped her in interpreting the verses.



At the time of the Prophet’s death, the Prophet’s head was on her lap. It was in her quarters that the Prophet was buried.







The life of Aishah (R) is a proof that a woman can be far more learned than men and that she can be the teacher of scholars and experts. Her life is also a proof that a woman can exert influence over men and women and provide them with inspiration and leadership. Aisha (R) is a continuing inspiration and role model to today’s youth who are diligently searching for an example amongst the pop stars, movie actresses and sports stars. May the memory of her’s live forever in the heart of the Muslim Ummah and may Allah grant her the highest abode in Paradise…Aameen.


Conclusion:

It was the aforementioned qualities of Aisha ® and the Prophet’s guidance in molding these capabilities for the service of Islam, were the main reasons, why the Prophet Married young Aisha ®, and not the perverted reasons brought forth by misguided orientalists.

Muslims invite all sincere humans to study the life of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon) in the light of the authentic sources of the Quran and the Sunnah (exemplary sayings and deeds of the Prophet) and judge for themselves where the truth lies. Indeed, by recognizing the truth of Islam as the final and complete Guidance sent by our Creator can humanity find lasting peace in this world and a means of salvation from the hell fire in the hereafter.

"I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM, Vol. 1, No. 81936.

Though, the Prophet is not among us in his flesh, but his exemplary life has been preserved for all humanity to follow.

When Truth comes Falsehood disappears, Islam came, now Shirk (polytheism) must clear

Welcome to Islam…

 
At 6:03 PM, Blogger smithy said...

Dear Ali Hamaza,

Your playing with words with all that nonsense and every point you made. You know damn well what that anonymous guy means when he used the word lust, you know damn well he was referring to the sexual lust. Don’t try to spin it, you muslims are the masters of spin and brain wash, just because you have such an ignorant and brain washed base in the Islamic world and you can fool them with all kind of crap, it doesn’t mean you can do it here. This crap does not work here. Go play another one.

53 years old having sex, or lusting over a 6 years is a pedophile, 6 years old is a child now it was a child 1400 years. The 53 years old prophet of yours not only lusted and had sex with the child Aisha, he even had wet dreams about her. Twice he dreamt of a little girl, the 6 year old pretty daughter of his best friend Abu Bakir. She was wrapped in a silk cloth. He uncovered the silk cloth to see more of her.
Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 15:
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said (to me), "You have been shown to me twice in (my) dreams. A man was carrying you in a silken cloth and said to me, 'This is your wife.' I uncovered it; and behold, it was you. I said to myself, 'If this dream is from Allah, He will cause it to come true."
He ended up marrying the 6 year old girl of his dreams. Your muslim historians and scholars documented all this crap, Not me. Live with it accept it, it's the truth any which way you like to spin it.

As far as the reasons you gave to why he married all these women, listen to this audio file it responds to all your justification of marring Aisha (in Arabic) Click on this link if you want to listen to it in English.

MuhamMAD’s life and every action and move is well documented by Muslim historians and scholars, this link is a well documented pdf file lists every one of his terror, looting, raping, torturing and deception, why don’t you take a good look at it and learn something. Every single act listed in this document is backed up by Islamic sources and by quranic verses and Hadith. So you want to see evil, read this document, muhamMAD makes Hitler look like a pussy cat.

As far as the rest of the stuff you listed it’s all crap and only means anything to the simple minded muslims, don’t amount to a hill of bean.

Don’t write nonsense and other irrelevant verses. I am getting sick of you muslims dodging the issues with all kind of crap that have nothing to do with the facts presented here. Telling me muhamMAD is the last prophet, doesn’t mean shit to me, telling me islam is the light because the quran says so, makes you sound stupid and dumber than a baboon. REFUTE THE FACTS, REFUTE THE FACTS, REFUTE THE FACTS.

In the future keep your comments short, I don’t have a lot of time to read nonsense. If you have anything to refute the facts, bring it on! All I need from you is to explain them to me one by one. It’s easy, I’ll give you an example how to go about explaining it to me.

1-You read the verse that says smite the infidel necks anywhere you find them and explain to me how is this peaceful and compassionate. See! It’s Easy!!

2- you read the pdf document then you explain to me how the prophet in yathrib put all the Jewish men and the boys with puberty hair to the knife, raped their women and sold the women and children to slavery and seized their properties and split it among his jihadist. I want you to explain to me how all of this is an act of a merciful prophet from god.

It’s easy!! Stick with the facts.

 
At 12:43 AM, Anonymous ali hamza said...

i told u wat a pedophile means.nothing can be done if u dont know english.

 
At 6:43 AM, Blogger smithy said...

Dear Ali,

Here is a fact, He was in his 50's and she was 6. He was a sick man any which way you spin it. He was sick and you are sick for defending him.

see ya

 
At 1:43 AM, Anonymous ali hamza said...

mr smithy ,ur im not sick but u.u dont want to accept this fact.ur mind is polarised unidirectionally"anti-islam',u dont want to think further after reading ur blog i reflected on their truthfulness.n realized that ur knowledge of islam is just like seeing colour of a fruit without tasting it.u dont want to accept it.as can be seen from ur previous comment' He was in his 50's and she was 6'nothing further.u know y..coz u dont want to accept any further information.i think u haven gone through my comments thoroughly even if u have u dont want to accept it.nothing can be done if u dont want to use ur brain further.

 
At 9:23 PM, Blogger smithy said...

Dear Ali Hamza,

I did read your comments, your justification for muhamMAD marrying Aisha is laughable for the following reasons: MuhamMAD did not need to reinforce the relationship with Abu-Bakir as Abu-Bakir was one of the first to join islam and was one of muhamMADs best friends and confidant, they even declared their brotherhood, as you know this was an old Arabic tradition for best friends to declare their brotherhood to enforce their friendship and that brotherhood used to be respected and as strong as blood brothers which makes muhamMAD even a sicker man than you think. Now he was involved in incest, Fucking your own niece is even a bigger crime.

As far as teaching her to utilize here capability for the sake of Islam, I would say he could have tutored her all about islam without having sex with her or marrying her. You guys are brain washed to believe anything your mullahs say to you, without any question because you’re terrified of hell fire and more terrified of being labeled a Kafir or Murtad.

Now for the biggest of your funny jokes; The revelation! This revelation came down conveniently after the fact and after he started lusting for the little child. You muslims think you worship god but in reality you worship a pedophile, as muhamMAD in many incidents has employed god to serve his own lustfulness, greed and murder. to justify all his action and lots of these so-called revelation (wahi) used to come down on him after the fact. So you poor old muslims think you worship god but you really worship nothing but a murdering, looting pedophile. Sorry it’s a dirty job but some one have to break the news for you.

My knowledge of islam is not in question here, the quran and the history of islam were shoved down my ears nose and throat since I was a little kid, so my knowledge of islam is not an issue here, the issue here is you acknowledging that every thing I post here is true, every thing presented here are from Islamic sources. Don’t get mad at me, I did not write this crap, muslim historian and scholars did. Some of the other crap was actually taken right out of the quran. SORRY I CAN’T HELP YOU!!

 
At 2:27 AM, Anonymous KASHIF_IIT_INDIA said...

INTRESTINGLY MR SMITHY . I DONT THINK HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASSALLAM )MARRIED BIBI AAISHA(RADI ALLAHU ANHA)"THE MOTHER OF ALL MUSLIMS AT THE AGE OF 6.THIS IS WAT I HAVE TO SAY:::::
AGE OF AYESHA (Allah be pleased with her)
AT THE TIME OF MARRYING
PROPHET MUHAMMED (Peace & Blessings Of ALLAH be upon him):
To begin with, I think it is the responsibility of all those who believe that marrying a girl as young as nine years old was an accepted norm of the Arab culture, to provide at least a few examples to substantiate their point of view. I have not yet been able to find a single dependable instance in the books of Arab history where a girl as young as nine years old was given away in marriage. Unless such examples are given, we do not have any reasonable grounds to believe that it really was an accepted norm.

In my opinion, the age of Ayesha (ra) has been grossly mis-reported in the ahadith. Not only that, I think that the narratives reporting this event are not only highly unreliable but also that on the basis of other historical data, the event reported, is quite an unlikely happening. Let us look at the issue from an objective stand point. My reservations in accepting the narratives, on the basis of which, Ayeshas (ra) age at the time of her marriage with the Prophet (pbuh) is held to be nine years are:

- Most of these narratives are reported only by Hisham ibn `urwah reporting on the authority of his father. An event as well known as the one being reported, should logically have been reported by more people than just one, two or three.

- It is quite strange that no one from Medinah, where Hisham ibn `urwah lived the first seventy one years of his life has narrated the event, even though in Medinah his pupils included people as well known as Malik ibn Anas. All the narratives of this event have been reported by narrators from Iraq, where Hisham is reported to have had shifted after living in Medinah for seventy one years.

- Tehzibu'l-tehzib, one of the most well known books on the life and reliability of the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that according to Yaqub ibn Shaibah: "narratives reported by Hisham are reliable except those that are reported through the people of Iraq". It further states that Malik ibn Anas objected on those narratives of Hisham which were reported through people of Iraq. (vol 11, pg 48 - 51)

- Mizanu'l-ai`tidal, another book on the narrators of the traditions of the Prophet (pbuh) reports that when he was old, Hisham's memory suffered quite badly. (vol 4, pg 301 - 302)

- According to the generally accepted tradition, Ayesha (ra) was born about eight years before Hijrah. But according to another narrative in Bukhari (kitabu'l-tafseer) Ayesha (ra) is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur'an, was revealed, "I was a young girl". The 54th surah of the Qur'an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Ayesha (ra) had not only been born before the revelation
of the referred surah, but was actually a young girl (jariyah), not an infant (sibyah) at that time. Obviously, if this narrative is held to be true, it is in clear contradiction with the narratives reported by Hisham ibn `urwah. I see absolutely no reason that after the comments of the experts on the narratives of Hisham ibn `urwah, why we should not accept this narrative to be more accurate.

- According to a number of narratives, Ayesha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Ayesha's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them.

- According to almost all the historians Asma, the elder sister of Ayesha was ten years older than Ayesha. It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Ayesha, if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.

- Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the Jahiliyyah -- the pre Islamic period. Obviously, if Ayesha was born in the period of jahiliyyah, she could not have been less than 14 years in 1 AH -- the time she most likely got married.

- According to Ibn Hisham, the historian, Ayesha accepted Islam quite some time before Umar ibn Khattab. This shows that Ayesha accepted Islam during the first year of Islam. While, if the narrative of Ayesha's marriage at seven years of age is held to be true, Ayesha should not have been born during the first year of Islam.

- Tabari has also reported that at the time Abu Bakr planned on migrating to Habshah (8 years before Hijrah), he went to Mut`am -- with whose son Ayesha was engaged -- and asked him to take Ayesha in his house as his son's wife. Mut`am refused, because Abu Bakr had embraced Islam, and subsequently his son divorced Ayesha (ra). Now, if Ayesha was only seven years old at the time of her marriage, she could not have been born at the time Abu Bakr decided on migrating to Habshah. On the basis of this report it seems only reasonable to assume that Ayesha had not only been born 8 years before hijrah, but was also a young lady, quite prepared for marriage.

- According to a narrative reported by Ahmad ibn Hanbal, after the death of Khadijah, when Khaulah came to the Prophet advising him tomarry again, the Prophet asked her regarding the choices she had in her mind. Khaulah said: "You can marry a virgin (bikr) or a woman who has already been married (thayyib)". When the Prophet asked about who the virgin was, Khaulah proposed Ayesha's name. All those who know the Arabic language, are aware that the word "bikr" in the Arabic language is not used for an immature nine year old girl. The correct word for a young playful girl, as stated earlier is "Jariyah". "Bikr" on the other hand, is used for an unmarried lady, and obviously a nine year old is not a "lady".

- According to Ibn Hajar, Fatimah was five years older than Ayesha. Fatimah is reported to have been born when the Prophet was 35 years old. Thus, even if this information is taken to be correct, Ayesha could by no means be less than 14 years old at the time of hijrah, and 15 or 16 years old at the time of her marriage.


These are some of the major points that go against accepting the commonly known narrative regarding Ayesha's (ra) age at the time of her marriage.

In my opinion, neither was it an Arab tradition to give away girls in marriage at an age as young as nine or ten years, nor did the Prophet marry Ayesha at such a young age. The people of Arabia did not object to this marriage, because it never happened in the manner it has been narrated.


From the ISLAMIC REVIEW:
***********************

1. The well-known historian Ibn Jareer al-Tabari writes at page 50 of volume 4 of his 'Book of History': "Abu Bakr married two ladies in the days of ignorance (pre-Call era). Fateelah daughter of Abd al-Aza was the first, from whom Abdullah and Asma were born. Umm-i-Rooman was the second, from whom Abd al-Rahman and 'Aishah were born. All the four children of Abu Bakr were born in the days of ignorance (Jahiliyyah, i.e., pre-Islamic days) from the above-named two ladies.

2. It is a well-known fact of history, that Abu Bakr's son Abd al-Rahman fought against the Muslims in the battle of Badr. His age at that time was 21-22 years, and although he was older than 'Aishah, there is no evidence to show that the difference between their ages was more than three or four years. This fact lends support to the view that Hazrat 'Aishah was born four or five years before the Call.

3. The well-known historian and scholar Ibn Katheer writes in his 'Al-Badayah' about Sayedah Asma' daughter of Abu Bakr, Asma' died in 73 A.H. at the age of 100 years. She was ten years older than her sister 'Aishah. Now according to this report 'Asma' would have been 27-28 years old at the time of Hijrah and since she was ten years older than Sayedah 'Aishah, therefore the age of
Sayedah 'Aishah would have been 17 or 18 years at the time of Hijrah. Accordingly, her birth falls about four or five yearsbefore the Call, and her age at the time of the consummation of marriage in 2 A.H. will work out to 19-20 years.

4. The author of the well-known collection of Hadith 'Mishkat al-Masabeeh', Sheikh Waheed-ud-Deen, writes in his well-known book 'Ahmal fi Asma' al-Rijjal':

"At the time of the consummation of her marriage Sayedah 'Aishah's age was not less than 18-19 years."

All the above quotations give ample refutation to the common misconception that Aishah's age at the time of her Nikah was 6 years and at the time of consummation of marriage it was only 9 years. If Muslim scholars of the present era deem fit to make an objective research instead of beating the old track, they will find ample material in the pages of history to arrive at a correct age for Aishah.

And Allah the Almighty is the source of truth.

 
At 10:22 PM, Blogger smithy said...

Dear KASHIF_IIT_INDIA,

as far as Aysha here is the links for all the hadiths that says she was a little girl. It is well known fact that muhamMAD was a pedophile.

check this hadith

check this hadith too

here is another one:
Check this hadith Also

here is another one:

check this one too

there is plenty more, but I am getting bored.

 
At 8:54 AM, Anonymous KASHIF_IIT_INDIA said...

I TOO HAVE QUOTED HADITH WITH REASON TOO

 
At 10:36 AM, Blogger smithy said...

So my dear KASHIF_IIT_INDIA

Which one is true, are you saying there is contradiction in Islamic history and hadith and the quran.

 
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Hahah u muslims are so irrogant u even believe lies that is told in the mosque!

Unbelievable, Ur stupidity is already bigger then universe!

Like einstain said: I know only 2 thing who are infinitivem thats human stupidity and universe, but i am not shure for the universe!!!.





 
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What about bosnia, i live in ex-yugolsavia! bosnia become muslims when ottomans muslims pillage, burning and killing all the way to Vieanna in austria! They were forced to take islam, or be killed!

Palestina hm! Do u know when and from where palestina comes?!?
Probabl not cause in mosque u will heard only lies!

Palestina was inventd in 164 AD by Roman ceasar Avgustus, when he defeated Israel, and exile israelis, and in their land settled their worst enemies Arabs! He name land Phalistia, wich in hebrew means occupator! Not before 16 century they renamed them self in palestina!

And palstinians stared their wars against the jews in British Palestina, back in 47, when they also lost their land in the war they started! And every damn war isarel was involved was started by muslims! Or with rocket attack or with some other terrorist act!

 
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